One day, in a galaxy far, far away, I got bored and decided to share with people my firsts experiences.
No, not THAT. Icky.
*Yeah, there is such a thing as over sharing. You know who I’m talking to, Author of Orgies.*
Rather, the firsts that you come across when you’re reading.
Some of the ones I’ve talked about on my blog so far are fisting, rimming, fetishes like furries...
Erm, okay. Maybe it is THAT.
*tries hard not to look too smutty for Katiebabs chook’s readers*
So, what have you seen in a story that’s made you double take, reread, turn the book around to see if it works at a different angle, reread again, decide ‘no, fucking way people can really do THAT’ and then you discover through the powers of google fu that THAT really is true?
Don’t be shy now. Reading is meant to be educational after all. :D
70 comments:
Hmm. I think you scared them away, Kris.
Either that or they're shy.
Oh, here you are!
Hi!
You'll notice we're just as bad at following directions here as we are at your blog, Kris.
I think I exhausted my firsts over there. I am firsted out.
@Chris: Why am I not surprised.
@Wren: O_o Wait. Now I am surprised. Especially considering how much of a perve you are.
But I'm an old perv. I can't remember much. Maybe if someone else writes in, it'll spur my memory!
Well, I saw this on-line first otherwise I would have had to google it when I read about it. Self- ummmm. You know. The phrase go f-yourself taken literally. It can be done. I forget what book that was in. Maybe a Jade Buchanan because it was set in Alberta. A British guy and a former bull-rider.
I've seen self-BJ but never read about it. Someone should do that. :-) Wren?
Okay, why am I the only one being pervy here? What's up with that? Are they all prissy over here? Is it too late to revise my post for tomorrow? Crap, I've tarnished my rep now. Sigh.
Tam's a brown noser!
Okay, Tam. No. I can't imagine either of those scenarios being fun to read about. I've seen pix of the self-BJ and just feel squicky about them. I know one's mouth isn't that different from one's hands, so maybe it's the contortion that's required.
Yes, that's it, now that I think about it. Whenever I've seen those circus acts where the performers twist their bodies in unnatural ways, my stomach turns.
So, you'll have to get KZ to write that for you :)
@Wren: I can't believe you wussed out like that and made Tam destroy her rep.
@Tam: I've read a scene where a guy was able to screw himself with his own... Yeah. I still have trouble believing it even though I know it can actually happen. It's just... weird.
@Chris: I'm not sure you should be saying brown noser in this context.
Wait. What? Tam started it!
I wasn't gonna even mention the brown noser thing.
PS - You know people will be all 'Wow, this is a popular post. This Kris girl must be awesome.'
While that's obviously true, I still thank you for inflating the comments. It makes me look so not desperate and friendless.
That would be EXACTLY why I used it. Heh.
You're just jealous Chris at the depth of my perversity. Umm. Or something like that.
I checked, the book was Bull Rider by Jade Buchanan. Only 40 pages and they didn't have a condom. It was okay if slightly odd and if I hadn't seen it on-line I would have doubted the veracity.
You just wait Wren, wait till I get my Cirque story up and running and yes, I am so going there. :-P
We aimz to pleez.
Ummm. I think we've taken over the blog and run off on a tangent. Sorry KB, hope you're having fun on the big boat.
Tam: Reminds me of KZ's stint at the Dreamspinner blog....
Oh, Tam's right. Sorry sorry.
*waves* Hi KB!
I thought of a first (yay me):
"double penetration". As in 2 pegs in one hole. And believe it or not, it was not m/m. It was m/f/m (the gateway drug). And I was quite surprised. I can still picture the scene. Maybe cause I read it ten times.
@Wren: "I wasn't gonna even mention the brown noser thing."
So what now you made ME look bad? What's with you this morning?
@Chris: Filthy minded girl. Katiebabs chook said she runs a clean site. She's gonna be majorly pissed at you.
@Tam: That would be my immediate reaction. "Oh, we don't have a condom. Let me show you this neat trick I can do instead."
Just evil, I guess.
I have to say I read a fair bit of m/m/m and you rarely see DP. I was pleasantly surprised that a few in the Necking anthology actually used it. Perhaps it's considered too porny for "romance"?
@Wren: Oh, you definitely are.
Ok. I saw the words 'double penetration' and the 'gateway drug' and was wondering what the hell you've been reading.
@Tam: You were pleasantly surprised at reading DP? I'm not quite sure how to respond to that.
Level of perversity I tell you. I'm in competition with Wren.
To be honest I get bored with the rotisserie thing and DP is a nice change. Not that I'm volunteering. Uh uh. But if it floats your boat. *shrug*
Word Veri: sissess - all you wimps who won't fess up to your firsts
I'm pretty sure we scared off the regulars.
Special Delivery had DP. *waits for Tam, Kris, and Wren to get off the floor about me having read Special Delivery*
Veri word: jubgrid... Hmm. I like the sound of it, but the definition's eluding me...
*thunk*
vw: quirs
@Tam: *snort* Apparently so. Oh well.
DP seems too squishy and squeezy to me. I mean it's gotta hurt all those involved, don't you think?
BTW, the rotisserie comment? Fucking hilarious, although it's gotta be uncomfortable for the dude in the middle to keep turning around like that. Just sayin'.
@Chris: Holy crap. When did this miracle happen?
Wow. Chris amazes us all. But I also know you read most of More so I'm not totally shocked. :-P I have Special Delivery but haven't read it yet.
You'd think it hurts but obviously it depends on the guys. If you can get a fist in there ..... I'll just stop now.
Special Delivery is way better than More because Hello! There are emotions involved and they manage to talk about them in appropriately messed up male ways (in addition to all the sex). Works very well.
@Tam: Why stop? We might as well shock the hell out of KBC's readers completely.
I'm not necessarily thinking about the hole bit, but rather the squished pegs bit. That's gotta be uncomfortable even with the hard ons.
@Chris: Boo. In all seriousness, I did like SD, although the 'slut' thing got to me. I didn't really like that bit.
That was probably my least favorite bit, Kris.
But any book from which I have to take a break because I am anxious about a character's emotional safety - definitely had an impact.
Uh oh. That could be an issue for me.
I totally got the emotional intensity and angst over the character's sexuality and sexual preferences in terms of the kink he and his partner got off on, but the word slut just has too many negative connotations for me. It's interesting how some things can affect readers differently.
Wow. Look at us being serious. People are gonna think we have ADD.
Heh, they have to make it through the previous comments to discover that...
I thought the book addressed that, and Sam sort of took ownership of the term and was ok with it.
You think they'll give up reading by then? Good point.
I think Sam did take ownership of both the word and why it meant to him; however, I just couldn't get past my reaction. Nothing to do with the book necessarily, rather my response to that particular word.
It's like when a writer uses cunt in m/f. That's an immediate turn off for me.
I'm not keen on the use of slut either as a rule, I don't find it sexy and don't get people who enjoy being called that except jokingly. So I'll have to see if it works in context.
I saw 38 comments and I was like "OH YEAH!" Because I'm curious what kind of firsts people have seen... but.. no go. Dang.
Well, I've actually not read too many out-of-the-ordinary things. I think the only squeaky (as in, the sound I made when I read it) thing I've read was one (or a few) scenes in the Anita Blake series. It was almost like bestiality.. since she was having sex with a shifter.. when he was still partially in animal form. And while she was covered in the sticky goop shifters produce when changing.
Maybe that's not so bad? But definitely a first for me.
Tam: It will be interesting to see what you think.
Morning Glow: See. I knew someone would be disappointed. LOL.
Ewww to shifted sex. I totally agree. Weirdest shifted sex I ever read was an m/m/m and the human guy was having sex with dolphin dude.
Yep, in his animal form so it was underwater sex too and the human guy had to wear a snorkel and stuff. It was... odd and squeaky.
Hmm. Wasn't there something like that in the book Day of the Dolphins, which was NOT a shifter book?!? (or m/m)
Veri: oxygable
Ick. Very ick.
An oxygable should not be misused for underwater shifted sex.
You do realise that Katiebabs chook is gonna kick our butts for all this bestiality stuff.
You wanted firsts.... :) I read that book when I was 13 or so. O.O Can you say utterly unsupervised childhood? :)
And wait, what the hell did she think was going to happen when she turned the blog over to you for a day?!??
Good point.
God, thinking about this has made me remember the first time I read about oral sex in a romance. I was totally shocked. And then there was my disbelief that people could have sex in any other position besides missionary...
I was young and naive.
This was only in the year before I started reading m/m erotica and romance mind you. Now very little shocks me. LOL.
In those old romance books we all read back in the day (Kathleen E. Woodiweiss) did the girls give oral? I don't remember that. Maybe I blocked it out. LOL
In the first romance I ever read, they still referred to making out as "making love." See, I started on all the old 1980s Harlequins my Mom had stashed in the basement. It confused the heck out of me when the girl said she was still a virgin, but several pages ago, she had "made love" with the hero. Finally I caught on. It was a shock to go from those to "Bet Me" by Jennifer Crusie.. which is very much a modern book, where Min gets tied up and has the chocolate icing from a Krispy Kreme donut licked off her chest. And to think, my MOTHER gave me that book to read. I was horrified she read such.. such.. smut!
Too funny MorningGlow. I've been training my daughter so she already knows Mom reads smut and won't be shocked. I'll probably be paying for therapy down the line. :-P
That is weird that making out = making love. Wonder who they thought they were kidding?
So, my parents got divorced when I was 15 and when I was 16, my mom was trying to share GRAPHIC DETAILS about the boys she was picking up at the local bar. The therapy was, sadly, after I was paying for that stuff on my own. ;)
Tam: Not the girl's giving head, sweetie. That NEVER used to happen. Good girls don't do that. Or they didn't. LOL.
Therapy will be definitely on the cards, especially after yaoi con.
Morning Glow: "And to think, my MOTHER gave me that book to read. I was horrified she read such.. such.. smut!"
*snort* I was exactly the same when I started reading my Mumma's Harlequins before I worked out that denial was a good thing.
*whispers* That's still my approach now. I seriously don't want to think about it. It's bad enough knowing where I, theoretically, come from.
Chris: Eeek! See my comment above. Don't tell me these things. Eva. I had nightmares when I found KY at the Dad and Stepmum's place. *shudder*
My brother had to drag my upstairs at my dad and stepmom's place to show me the sexual instruction videos in the friggin' guest room. This was <2 years ago. O.O
Maybe not the firsts you were thinking about, Kris?!?
Maybe not, but still counts. I guess.
Clearly I too have a dirty mind because I was expecting to see a lot of firsts too!
I read Special Delivery and really enjoyed it - the DP was a first for me and I was kind of glad it didn't go into too much detail other than to say that the guys spent "over an hour preparing" him - my mind was boggling a bit at what that meant but it's probably best I don't know ::grins:: Actually, now that I think on it, the whole, go to a bar, pick up a stranger and get a BJ on the dance floor while the lover is behind doing er, behind-y things was a first for me too! o-O
Have you read Double Blind? That's Randy's story and Mitch and Sam are a pretty big part of it. I don't think it has quite as much sexxoring as SD, it's got lots of (quite interesting) stuff about poker and one of the characters had a rather strange metaphor for life based on a deck of cards but overall I enjoyed it. Not quite as much as SD though.
Perve! :P
LOL. You know that Special Delivery is pretty tame compared to some of the other m/m romances out there, right. ;)
I haven't yet read Double Blind, but I've heard some really good things about it, including how it shows the development of Sam and Mitch's relationship. You've got me intrigued. I think I might have to do some shopping.
um, no, I didn't know it was pretty tame. It's right up there with the most, er, "untame" I've read. But then, I've only started reading m/m in the last year or so and it's not my main reading.
So there are more pervy ones out there? ::blushes:: Do they still have a romantic relationship at the heart or are they just sexxoring? ::fans self:: Do I dare ask for a recommendation?
LOL, Kaetrin! Made you blush. ;)
It's only tame compared to some. Meaning that, yep, there are more smexier ones out that, but they are essential porn-without-plot whereas SD does, as you say, still have the relationship at its heart.
As to recommendations *rubbing hands together with glee*... Hun, you can't go past Sean Michael. You will have your eyes well and truly opened. Fisting, using sounds, etc, etc. S/he does it all and was responsible for many firsts among m/m readers.
But Sean Michael is "romance" in the sense it's a couple (or three) who fall in love and end up HEA, you just see that happen mostly through sex and not through hanging out watching movies and eating dinner. They never eat because they are living on love. Sigh.
Kaetrin: I have Double Blind and obviously need to get to it soon. :)
It was a book I recently read by Ally Blue he was "preparing" the hero for well..you know...*waves fist around* and I think my mouth was like this the entire time *open's wide* - I don't think it added a lot to the story, felt more like a shock scene. I wont' even mention the thing he put up his wee-wee *shudders*
My first WOW experience was when I was eighteen. I'd just graduated from a very strict, Baptist high school. On a lark, I walked into an adult novelty store and the lady kindly gave me a very detailed tour. Now, that I'm older, none of those things would even make me blink twice, but back then, I was shocked stupid.
Tam: You romantic sap you.
KC: You read your first fisting and sounds story. *sniffle* You're all growed up.
Stephani: LOL! I can just imagine. This wide eyed school girl - yes, in a uniform cos I'm like that :p - walking around with Dominatrix begin shown 'the works'. Classic. *g*
@SmokinHotBooks - ouch! What Ally Blue book was it? - so I can avoid it of course! :)
@ Tam - does Sean Michael write romance or is it more Pr0n? If romance, what would be a good one to start with?
There was mention of "fisting" in Double Blind but it happened off page - to me, it didn't have any part to play in the story that was being told so I don't know why it was there. (I don't know why anyone would want a fist up their whatsit either, but that's another topic! :D )
Kaetrin: This was our discussion about fisting first: http://krisngoodbooks.blogspot.com/2009/11/firsts-series-fisting.html#comments. You may find it... interesting. ;)
OMG! I visited your website and looked at the firsts posts on fisting and rimming (I totally agree with your 'assumptions' by the way). As was said by one of the commenters, my eyebrows spent quite a bit of time in my hairline.
Well, you know what they say, you really do learn something new every day. o-O
So, is You Give Love a Bad Name a really good romance story as well as a smexy one?
I pride myself on my edjumactional posts, Kaetrin. LOL.
Are you thinking about Bad Case of Loving You by Laney Cairo? If you are, then yep it definitely has that mix and to great reviews as well. If you get it, I hope you like piercings! *hehehe*
Yep, that's the one. It was mentioned in the comments on your blog. What's it about? And, um, piercings? Is there anything I should know?
(Oh, BTW, I looked and saw that you were in Perth. I'm only a little to the east, in Adelaide. Small world huh?)
Very small. And would you believe that Laney Cairo is an ex-pat living in Perth. LOL.
Essentially, it is a medical romance and follows the development of a relationship between a doctor and an intern, but has some real depth in it including political issues at the hospital, family issues, etc.
Do you use goodreads? If you check out the page for it here: http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/263700.Bad_Case_of_Loving_You, it will give you a whole heap of reviews and thoughts about the book.
PS - I'm not telling you any more about the piercing. You have to find that one out for yourself. ;)
okay, just went and bought it. It's in the TBR pile so I'll get to it one of these days. I've just started Cheating Chance by James Buchanan.
Cool. You'll have to tell me what you thought of it, Kaetrin.
Oh, and James Buchanan's Taking the Odds series is terrific. I hope you enjoy it as much as I did. :)
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